I guess I ought to introduce myself.

I am Jake AKA JakeInHartsel, Hartsel being a very small town about 15 miles from where I live. I would guess maybe 50 people live in Hartsel proper, and the there isn´t a whole lot proper in Hartsel. Hartsel is in Colorado for those that don´t immediately know where it is. It is high up here about 9,750 feet at the house and frequently the people are even higher.

I love to argue politics and such and the best description of me is economically I am a socialist and socially i am a Libertarian. I like to take pictures, shoot guns, hike bicycle, make model airplanes and drink wine. And oh yes, i have been an atheist for the last 58 or so years. I have little patience for dogma, so if you can tell me why your postion makes sense, don´t bother.

I will get a user pic up one of these days.

jake